Talking with . . .   Churn

Interviewed 3/31/2003 by Brett VanPut

ChurnInterview with guitarist Scott Walker
Churn is an extreme metal meets hardcore band rising from the killer U.K. scene. Twelve Easy Steps to Endsville is their debut offering and gives potential fans an insight into their madness. Their debut features grindcore and the abrasive vocal attack of Robert Kennedy. Here are some interview questions to guitarist Scott Walker.

Tell about the origins of Churn.
Churn oringanlly formed about ten years ago, only original member left is the vocalist, Rab. The version of Churn now sounds completely different. This line up with the exception of the bass player got together around May 1999.

Do you feel satisfied with Twelve Easy Steps to Endsville?
Endsville sounds good for the amount of money we spent recording it. There are obviously things which I feel we could have done better, and the fact that the studio we recorded in were havin some problems with their gear meant that we lost some tracks and had to redo them which was shit, but the albums a good representation of where we were at when we recorded it. It's a little too polished sounding for what I think our sound is but we're workin on that for the next c.d.

What would you do differently the next time you enter the studio?
We're recording the next album now, so already we're tryin out different things. We're in a different studio that has different equipment, the last c.d. was recorded on a 16 track hard disk, this time we've got twenty four tracks onto 2" analogue tape which I prefer the sound of.

Your sound is really extreme and fast- do you feel Churn is more affiliated with the grindcore crowd than any other? Is early Napalm Death an influence?
We don't feel a part of any particular genre within the metal tag, we play with such a diverse amount of bands from, hardcore to death metal to straight up rock. People don't seem to be able to pin our sound down to one style of metal, which is a good thing 'cause then we stand out a little more. Napalm Death certinly influenced our sound in the initial stages of the 1999 version of Churn, but it was Napalm's more recent output rather than their early stuff from say, Diatribes onwards, but we've always tried to do our own thing and not just copy what everyone else is doing, that's probably our one rule.

Do you feel the U.K. should support America with the Iraq war?
It's tough, because Sadam's regime is obviously not good for the people living in Iraq or for their neghbouring countries, and he has shown that he's a liar and is willing to use whatever weapons he does have. But you need to wonder if now is the right time to do something about him with a lot of countries refusing to support the U.S. and U.K. and questioning the real reasons for this invasion. Bottom line is, war only ever really benefits the people at the top.

Are there many protests in your country?
There were a lot of protests in the days running up to the initial stages to the conflict, and there have been some since but it seems to be dying down a bit now that the war is on.

The underground music scene in the U.K. is very strong with some great bands, why do you think these bands have not received more attention from bigger labels?
Bigger labels are only interested in high returns in a short period of time, they understand that the shelf life of a lot of artists is relatively short, the public get bored and move on to the next big thing being rammed in their face. It's also got to be the right time to sign a band, lots of bands in the U.K. are ahead of the trends and so get overlooked because their too different and by the time people pick up on them there are already a lot of other bands out there doing the same thing. But the recent success of bands such as Slipknot and System Of A Down and especially Dillinger Escape Plan if you like it a bit more extreme, have meant that intrest in the underground metal community over here has risen and so bands that would have played a 300 cap venue are now playing eight hundred plus cap such as the Lost Prophets (bad example but they did come out of the U.K. underground), better example is maybe Hundred Reasons, not really extreme but still would have been playing tiny venues now if metal wasn't so popular again. Scotlands also doing not too badly, you've got us Madman Is Absolute, Co-Exist, Godplayer and Broken Oath all coming out of the Glasgow area and gettin some really positive attention from crowds promoters and labels, there's also Zillah, errata, In Decades Decline and Kaddish on the east coast who are all makin names for themselves. So although mega stardom ain't on the cards things are lookin up.

What are the twelve easy steps to endsville?
The twelve tracks on the c.d., listen to them and your on your way to the End. Actually theres only two steps, no sleep and lots of beer.

What plans do you have for the next recording?
As I said earlier we've already started, we're also workin with Richie Dempsy who is the guy that recorded and produced the Madman Is Absolute c.d., he's got a good idea of what we're after and loves his real dirty sounding metal like Converge, so I'm sure we'll get on fine.

Final comments?
Yeah, check out the website www.endsville.150m.com you can also download demo versions of the new material www.mp3.com/churn_ and also www.goatfucker.co.uk will give you info on the Scottish underground.

Discography:
2001... Twelve Easy Steps To Endsville

Current line-up:
Robert Kennedy... vocals
Scott Walker... guitars
Graham Lapper... bass
Gerry McGrath... drums

endsville.150m.com

TTM reviews of albums by Churn :
2003 - 'Twelve Easy Steps to Endsville'

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